EcoBrick Bob Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 This is the Kit Torrie @ Unleashed Tuning created and is available at his Fast Parts Network website. I located the W/M pump just behind the Radiator Reservoir. It is held in place by a piece of Aluminum strap that after attached to the pump housing, slides and locks into the slots on the back side of the reservoir. The inlet hose to the W/M pump goes into the windshield washer reservoir, which is utilized as the W/M holding tank. There is a "T" in the vacuum/pressure hose that goes into the intake manifold, and is located close to it. The hose from the "T" hooks to the pressure switch relay, that turns on the pump & the light showing the pump circuit is on. The light was added by me, and is visible to the driver. At the top of this picture is my custom Air Intake Sustem, which uses a ROTO FAB "J" intake pipe (from a G8 RF Intake) that is reversed, and mated to the pipes to the turbo's with 2 hoses & Clamps, with a solid piece of PVC inside. The filter is an AEM non-Oiled filter, with a K & N Filter cover. A picture of the pump with the bracket, before installation. The pump can be easily removed if necessary. The supply lines are hooked up via quick connect fittings. A picture of the "T" and it's location. A picture of the boost pressure switch. The button on it manually activates the pump, to verify it is working and to prime it. A picture of the relay that turns on W/M the pump. It is activated by the boost switch, and is hooked up to my light. The light I installed to show when the W/M is spraying. I added an in-line filter from AEM - just in case. The location of the spray nozzle in the pipe between the Intercooler and the Intake. Installed and hooked up to W/M Pump supply line. The nozzle is at the bottom, spraying up and angled towards the close by Throttle Body. This picture shows the inside of the intake pipe, laying on top of the exposed throttle body. When active, Spraying W/M reduces 1/4 mi times approximately 1/2 second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdog Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Does it cause any odd issues with tuning having the nozzle in line with the sensor like that in the pipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoBrick Bob Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 GOOD Question! NO... Realize it;s hard to see... but spray is AWAY from the sensor... Sensor is on side of the intake pipe. Nozzle is on bottom and was drilled/inserted/designed (?hopefully?) to spray in back (throttle body side) of the (stock) MCT 3 bar sensor. (correct - this sensor is a 3 bar sensor and is identical to the non-stock 3 bar MAPv sensor I use in the middle of the Intake Manifold same part #). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoBrick Bob Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Here is a better picture of the spray nozzle... (Too many pix... can't find them sometimes...) Another.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdog Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 OK, I can see now how the opening in the nozzle looks angled and is pointing toward the TB and away from the sensor. What is the black stuff all over the outside? Epoxy? No issues with boost leaks I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Great photos and info..thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 What did you do about washer fluid? Just going without? Did you swap to a 3 bar map? Considering this kit as it is more affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrming Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 What did you do about washer fluid? Just going without? Did you swap to a 3 bar map? Considering this kit as it is more affordable. EBB's just washes his windshield with his 50/50 mix... so his washer fluid tank is doing double duty...I also believe he is running the 3 bar. Is Torrie's kit 100% methanol compatible? If you are going to do a Livernois tune for the methanol, i believe they will only tune for 100% methanol, not a mix... Just something to keep in mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 EBB's just washes his windshield with his 50/50 mix... so his washer fluid tank is doing double duty...I also believe he is running the 3 bar. Is Torrie's kit 100% methanol compatible? If you are going to do a Livernois tune for the methanol' date=' i believe they will only tune for 100% methanol, not a mix... Just something to keep in mind..[/quote'] I would have to find a remote washer tank location because I love a clean windshield. Dont want to be spraying methanol when I can be spraying $1 wiper fluid. I emailed Torrie about the mix. He said mix doesnt really matter with their kit and calibration. This is something for me to consider because I could probably buy and install this in the near future. The kit with tunes is $500 and I could use Snow 51/49 mix which is $33 for 4 gallons. According to Torrie the 3-bar map is not required to run methonal but it will help raise boost. That is something else I would have to think on if I went with the Unleashed kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrming Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I would have to find a remote washer tank location because I love a clean windshield. Dont want to be spraying methanol when I can be spraying $1 wiper fluid. I emailed Torrie about the mix. He said mix doesnt really matter with their kit and calibration. This is something for me to consider because I could probably buy and install this in the near future. The kit with tunes is $500 and I could use Snow 51/49 mix which is $33 for 4 gallons. According to Torrie the 3-bar map is not required to run methonal but it will help raise boost. That is something else I would have to think on if I went with the Unleashed kit. Yep, 3-bar is not needed until you raise the boost above 14 PSI (14.7 or something like that). Not sure how much boost EBB is running... but I seem to remember him running a bit more boost than I am... I'm still using the stock 2-bar sensor... that way I can easily just switch back to the stock tune without swapping sensors....(swapping sensors is not a big deal, but not swapping mean one less thing I can screw up! LOL) it also saved me a few dollars not having to buy the 3-bar.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Yep' date=' 3-bar is not needed until you raise the boost above 14 PSI (14.7 or something like that). Not sure how much boost EBB is running... but I seem to remember him running a bit more boost than I am... I'm still using the stock 2-bar sensor... that way I can easily just switch back to the stock tune without swapping sensors....(swapping sensors is not a big deal, but not swapping mean one less thing I can screw up! LOL) it also saved me a few dollars not having to buy the 3-bar..[/quote'] Your running the 2 bar, nice to know. Yeah I looked again it would actually be 459.98 shipped for the Unleashed kit with tune. So we will see how the stuff I have on Ebay does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoBrick Bob Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I purchased 100% Methanol by the gallon at Cedar Falls Raceway for under $4. When I bought the Snow 49-51, I got it from Summit. At times I was running upwards of 75% methanol. I did not have a separate tank as keeping the windshield clean used very little water/methanol ( which is what most windshield washer solutions for the lowest temps are made of). Also, unless you really are on it all the time like BPD !!!!!- you won't use very much pump spray in normal driving situations. Torries system turns on at 8 PSI. The kit he sent me had a #7 nozzle. I later updated to the #10 nozzle, after I had already purchased and installed a 3 bar sensor. I also added the filter which I purchased from AEM. Since I wanted to know when the system was spraying, I also added an amber light that I positioned on the outside of the windshield near the wiper pivot on the drivers side. When at the strip, I always manually turned on the spray, to make absolutely sure the pump was working, It always has been holding prime, and works immediately. On trips back and forth from IA to FL & back, the spray never came on, except if I needed to floor the Flex for traffic situations that made it necessary. Maybe twice each way. For anyone who is considering Torries system, I have more pictures, and would be happy to answer any other questions. Another positive is that this W/M system can be removed in about 15 minutes, if you use pin connectors for the electrical connections. After extensive tuning & testing, I made 3 12 second runs, the last 2 using DR's on front with outside temps in the mid-70's. Never have any better conditions since. If temps were in the 40's with those DR's, who knows how much faster I might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Define extensive tuning. It sounded like Torrie had a tune ready, would I need to data log get it tweaked? Only scary part for me just going it would be not having an a/f for the tune. DO NOT want to burn my stuff up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoBrick Bob Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Torrie has developed tunes based on my logging. However, once you have the setup and initial tune, it is always a good idea to log and send it to Torrie, so he can tweak it. The same thing goes for the Livernois setup. You will definitely get even more performance if you have Dan Dyno your car after installation. Logging works the same way, but takes longer as the tuner can't modify several things in real time, but has to go step by step and may be changing different variables. Responsible tuners like Dan and Torrie are by nature conservative in their "canned" tunes, as not all cars are created equal. Same goes for location, temp, fuel and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 If I do Torries kit I will want any pics/details you have. How long did it take you? Front bumper off? How did you install the suction hose in the washer fluid tank? Still mulling around the idea of doing this this year. I have no prob waiting until spring and that was my plan... *BUT* We have a grudge match day in October and all of the guys I spanked at the last one are doing mods thinking they have me. I cant explain in words how awesome it would be to have a nice surprise for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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