ONLYA6 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 397 AWHP / 381 AWTQ 2013 Taurus SHO Performance Package Livernois Motorsports 93 Tune NGK 1 step colder plugs 170* Thermostat AIRAID Intake Corsa Exhaust 4th Gear pulls, SAE corrected on a Dynocom Dyno Dyno sheet shows the 1st and 3rd pull. 1st pull engine was still fairly cold. The HP seemed high - I was expecting somewhere around 350. For comparison, right after me a 2011 Camaro SS L99 Auto w/ intake made 333 WHP / 346 WTQ, which is right on for that car. So who knows... [video=youtube;Q_lmARb6XGI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_lmARb6XGI&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpd1151 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 HP #'s you are reporting, definitely seem abnormally high. Especially given the fact that most guys, including myself, who are running higher stage tune files, along with more mods, including methanol, are achieving similar HP #'s, or just slightly more..... I would bargain to say there's likely some sort of fudging, and/or error there somewhere. Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Yea, I'm not sure. Numbers are corrected to SAE. This tune is a new update Livernois sent me a few weeks ago, said to make "slightly more power". Like I said, I expected around 350 and assumed it was high but then right after me that Camaro went on and put down numbers exactly as it should have. Haven't heard much of Dynocom dynos to know what other factors could have came into play. I'll be headed back to the track in a month so we'll see how it does compared to last fall. Maybe Rick will see this and chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I know have heard before not all dyno are not the same. And there are a lot of other variables in the calibration and smoothing, another words if had your car dyno'd and a 10 different shops you will 10 different results. But like the old saying going the proof is in the pudding, so track results will ultimately prove out these numbers. Would like to see the dyno graph though maybe it further explain the extraordinary results as even the dyno jet at LMS records very high spikes on there AWD dyno that they have to smooth out, which is some sort strange phenomenon with AWD drive dyno's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]2343[/ATTACH] Yea I know all don't read the same. I definitely don't like the graph the Dynocom software puts out. Best ET/MPH with the first version of the 2013 tune and AIRAID was 12.9@110. This is the 3rd revision tune I've received and I have catback now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mothball Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 So I take it that you don't happen to have a stock baseline for comparisson then eh? That'd be the most telling to see how close to "correct" you are. Well, besides the #'s though, how does the new tune feel to you? Is it noticably faster then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 No, never did a baseline, and no, nothing noticeable. Eh, I shouldn't have even posted up the numbers since they didn't seem right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 No, never did a baseline, and no, nothing noticeable. Eh, I shouldn't have even posted up the numbers since they didn't seem right. NO NO not all. Your numbers are probably accurate, now that I seen the graph. And its in the testing that yielded these results, look at it they began the pull at 4500rpms. As mention before about variables, how the test are performed will yield different results. At LMS they start there pulls at much lower rpms as seen in the 2 pull here 1 start at 1500rpms and the 2nd at 2250. But don't regret posting there are just so many variables, it would be nice if there was a standardize procedure in performing dyno test. But to be honest this 1st dyno graph I've seen that was performed like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Did Livernois go in and make changes to "lock" your car in 4th gear so they could get a full range pull? I've seen tuners do that on autos to make it easier on them if they are dynotuning and making multiple pulls. We tried 2 methods on the pulls since even in manual mode it will downshift itself at WOT. - Put the car in 4th then try to get it up to an RPM where it wouldn't downshift then go WOT (which is what I read most were doing) - Go WOT then immediately shift up to 4th to get a better range on the pull but this was screwing up the readings for some reason, so these runs were disregarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not exactly sure what they did there, but I thought they made pulls in 3rd gear which I know won't down shift even at lower rpms. But now that you mention it I think I have notice before being in 4th in manual mode and go wot it will down shift. So there are obviously some counter measure to keep you from over loading the trans. Hope others such as darrell or 1st-sho will pipe in as there cars have seen much dyno time and may have the answer to this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yea, I'd like to see what the general consensus is on a gear. Technically 5th should be the gear since it is 1:1 but I can see why it's not used since even with the PP max speed is 167 IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractorAK Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I want to know how you got upgraded tunes? I still have the first for 2013 I believe. It also feels like my 90 map is faster then my 93 map. Did you contact Livernois or did they contact you. Know that Rick's gone I guess I will send in a general email to them asking or the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I got an email saying a new update was made to my strategy code and is available for download. Probably because I was just talking to them a few weeks prior getting an update for a 170* t-stat. No need to contact anyone - just open your tuner update program and see if there is anything new to download for your strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighBarSHO Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Wow, that's really strong. It's hard to tell. Some guy on here says he pulled 385 whp stock...? But, the camaro numbers are accurate for the auto L99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fa-SHO Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Between Steve's 12.27 and your dyno numbers i'll definitely be plugging in my tuner to check for an update today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Between Steve's 12.27 and your dyno numbers i'll definitely be plugging in my tuner to check for an update today. Those times would add some validity to my numbers. I can't wait to get back to the track now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navytrev Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Those are some great #'s I'm a bit jealous. To bad the video wasn't of the rear end so we could hear the Corsa cat back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractorAK Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I checked for updates and there was an update for the device but no updated maps. Bummer think I will have to call them. Wish who ever replaced Rick would make themselves known and available on this site for quick questions and support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navytrev Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Did I miss some info? Rick is gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fa-SHO Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Just check for updates on mine too, and there is nothing :,-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Wouldnt the map update be from livernois, not from SCT? I doubt checking SCT would tell you if livernois has made an update to our maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpd1151 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Did I miss some info? Rick is gone? Must've missed it, or been hiding under a rock perhaps? :noidea: But here 'ya go...... http://www.ecoboostownerforums.com/showthread.php?2097-I-have-some-news-for-the-forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractorAK Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 I got an email saying a new update was made to my strategy code and is available for download. Probably because I was just talking to them a few weeks prior getting an update for a 170* t-stat. No need to contact anyone - just open your tuner update program and see if there is anything new to download for your strategy. ^^ this is why I thought that updating tuner would give me updated maps^^ so yeah no it did not update maps. Going to call Livernois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONLYA6 Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 ^^ this is why I thought that updating tuner would give me updated maps^^ so yeah no it did not update maps. Going to call Livernois. Mine updates new available maps when I hook it up and go through the update process... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fa-SHO Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I checked for updates and there was an update for the device but no updated maps. Bummer think I will have to call them. Wish who ever replaced Rick would make themselves known and available on this site for quick questions and support.Were there any available updated maps after giving them a call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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