sho89mtx Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 so apparently my water pump broke and threw coolant into my engine which blew a head gasket and caused a total engine failure and I need a new engine. which I probably can't afford to replace. I wonder how much my car is worth without a working engine, if that will even pay off my loan? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated because i'm at a loss right now both physically and mentally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamsho Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Usually your under when you buy these things. Bummer about your motor. Starting calling around to boneyards to get a price on a used one. http://car-part.com/mobile/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpd1151 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Agree with Brian. You won't get poopy w/o a working motor. The shell itself? Meh. Likely not enough to pay off your loan. At all. Aaaaaaaaaand, since your at this crossroads, and contemplating how to proceed, might as well keep her since a replacement motor is in order. Consider a built/race motor. Short block, or long block conversion from LMS is a great option. Orrrrrrrr...... just sell the whole damn thing outright, and pay off your loan and walk away altogether. That's really all your contemplating at this point. Only you can decide. I forgot, were you tuned? Not that it really matters I suppose. Water pumps fail. Sorry to hear (read) about this. Good luck!!!! Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sho89mtx Posted August 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 so after hours of checking things out, I found a local guy who is gonna rebuild the engine for less than $2000 who my dad uses on his T-bird that does great work. So wish me luck! I'm glad i'm able to keep my baby because this really was my dream car! In the process of getting it towed right now to the place. The weird thing about the blown gasket is my car will start up fine and it's not blowing white smoke like they say most do, hopefully it's just minor damage avidburnt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpd1151 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Seems reasonable. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk sho89mtx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sho89mtx Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 so I get to work today at my job at Hertz and one of the writer sent me this: https://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19060 apparently this engine is very well documented for having severe design flaw with the water pump being timing chain driven and behind the timing cover so if there is a failure, the coolant goes into the crankcase and causes a total engine failure everytime! I wish I was warned about this when I bought this car with 170k on it. Argh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Don't think you can really rely on this article, first this isn't the SHO engine. Second, you are the first total failure we've heard about. Most failures have been because of too aggressive tuning by people who didn't have the knowledge or the expertise to be doing the Ecoboost. Anyway, good luck with the rebuild, hope everything goes smoothly and the car is back to normal quickly. markssho01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sho89mtx Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Don't think you can really rely on this article, first this isn't the SHO engine. Second, you are the first total failure we've heard about. Most failures have been because of too aggressive tuning by people who didn't have the knowledge or the expertise to be doing the Ecoboost. Anyway, good luck with the rebuild, hope everything goes smoothly and the car is back to normal quickly. So your SHO doesn't have a 3.5L V6 in it? I'm no expert on engines, but pretty sure when u take the same engine and add twin turbo's do it, it's still the same engine and probably set up the same minus compression and other stuff, but the overall makeup and where water pumps and stuff that can go wrong and explode into your engine are all the same, am I wrong? Also i'm pretty sure my $7800 SHO that I bought due to having 170k on it is the cheapest and most mileage of any SHO in this club by far according to most of the people in here, and that why u guys haven't experienced the same things someone with a high mileage car would experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 It is the same 3.5 V6 but I think that the SHO engine has better internals than the NA engine. Also with that mileage on your car, you can't be sure that it was maintained correctly. I am surprised how many people are unaware that our cars require a special coolant and that aftermarket antifreeze is a big no-no. If your car wasn't dealer serviced, that could be one reason for the failure. Most of us have found that the engine in the SHO is fairly stout and that with reasonable care and a tune from a quality tuner, these are great cars. But I do have to yield on the mileage. I just turned over 40K on my car this summer. tss and sho89mtx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sho89mtx Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 update on car:They spent 30 hours of labor on it, had to drain the oil like 4 times to get all the coolant out, but finally did. did a pressure test on all 6 cylinders, no head gasket failure, replaced the water pump, a new starter, new front hub bearings, new front brake rotors and pads and getting 4 new tires for $2741 total, so still a lot of money, but at least I get to keep my dream car and not have to replace the engine. Might look into after the car is paid off to get a brand new engine put in with less miles of course, but that's down the road. Hope to see u guys in 2018 in Tulsa, Oklahoma at the SHO Convention! bamsho and SHOdded 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOdded Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Great to hear and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sho89mtx Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Great to hear and good luck! thanks, but as of today, the turbo's are gone with zero boost sound or power and there is a grinding noise coming from engine, and i'm taking back, so don't think the guy did a good job on fixing it. I'll keep ya guys posted, hopefully something just not put together correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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