TuxedoSHO Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 So I just finished my second run at Milan on an 81 degree day. DA of 2413. Ran a 13.19@105.36 on my 2010 non-pp with LMS stage 4+ tune, k&n CAI, LMS downpipes and corsa catback. Left the spare and jack at home, tire pressure at 28, launched around 2100.. Something doesn't seem right. I was expecting high 12s, but can't seem to get out of the 13s. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve142857 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I would expect high 12's too in those conditions. My best times were realized with tailwind and DA of -1000 or better! With your setup without downpipes, I was doing 12.6-12.7's... So In your conditions, that would be about 13 flat without downpipes... Or high -12's with downpipes. What were your 60' times? That will tell if something wrong or just bad tires/bad track prep combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Agreed, your 60's should give a lot more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeprato Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yeah I would guess your 60' times must have been holding you back. What tires are you running? The F1's? Or some all seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 My 60' was 1.98.. Seemed a bit high to me but I didn't have anything to compare to. Also, I'm currently running the factory all seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve142857 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 That is your reason just there. Eith your setup, you should with good tires and track well prepped shuffle off a good tenth, which translates in two tenths at the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulford8 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Stock springs on a non-pp car? Mine was a dog out off the line until the springs. Really helped my 60 and ET when I put the Eibachs on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Same here as with paul, do you have stock springs? The make a difference in 60' and top speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah haven't touched the springs yet.. I was planning on swapping them out, just not so soon... I mean the car was still stock only two weeks ago lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeprato Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Even street launching for me was better with the H&R springs installed as long as the temp is over 75 degrees but I have the F1 tires. Were you able to avoid the water box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah, went around the water box. Another couple things I just remembered.. I miscalculated the amount of gas it would take to get to Milan, so I had a little over a quarter tank, and I'm not sure I turned TC off. I'm not even sure it would have made a difference given that its a non-PP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Any noticeable difference in track times between H&R and Eibach springs? My driveway is a bit steep (front end touches as is) and due to our excellent Michigan roads, I don't think I'd be too enthusiastic about lowering the car nearly 2 inches. An adjustable setup would be ideal, but I don't think there is anything currently available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Rabb Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah' date=' went around the water box. Another couple things I just remembered.. I miscalculated the amount of gas it would take to get to Milan, so I had a little over a quarter tank, and I'm not sure I turned TC off. I'm not even sure it would have made a difference given that its a non-PP.[/quote'] Launch at 2500rpm or so, traction control off. Your sixty foot is your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeprato Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I read somewhere that Livernois recommends launching at 1750 if you have their Stage 4+ tune. I'm not sure if that's referring to the PP vs Non-PP or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I think that time is right on. I am doing 12.8's at 61/62 degrees with my set up (2013 PP,downpipes, corsa, air raid, 170 deg thermo, H&R's, Livernois dyno tune). Plenty of grip but still some spin all the way into 2nd gear. This is a 12.806 second run; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4U2LUZ2 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I have the exact 2010 non-pp and a few weeks ago I went 13.16 at Milan during LMS customer appreciation day. My only mod is the LMS stage 4+. Nothing else. Heck, I even have the stock paper filter. (Car has 70k miles with crapyears). So I would say those times are definitely slow. Sorry buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4U2LUZ2 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I do have to add I made 10 runs in a 2.5 hour time frame and the launch advise is spot on. Launch to soft no good, launch to hard no good. My best times were: 1750 rpms, traction control off, transmission in manual mode but let car shift itself. I am one of the lucky ones to have the little "hill assist" icon present if I put the shifter in manual mode as Lon as I don't touch the paddle shifters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 I am one of the lucky ones to have the little "hill assist" icon present if I put the shifter in manual mode as Lon as I don't touch the paddle shifters. I get the same icon when I put mine in manual. Any idea what exactly that mode does? I'm planning on heading back down there tomorrow night to see if I can do any better with my current setup. If not, I may have to look into tires and springs. I refuse to accept anything over 12.9 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 The icon is for grade assist, its for hills. The car drags in gear much like a manual trans instead of costing. As far drag racing in grade assist mode, I found it slows me down. Best results are achieved for non-pp models are in auto with T/C off leaving about 2000rpm's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxedoSHO Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 So... I made it to Milan friday night... Ran 12.84 - 12.89 all night. Seems like I'm def spinning off the line with TC off, so it looks like I'll be picking up a new set of summer tires, wheels and possibly springs before my next trip down. Wish I could have gotten a couple more runs in but about an hour and a half before close, some guy decided to flip his new 1200+ horsepower Vega, so I spent the next 75 minutes or so sitting in the staging lanes waiting for the track crew to clean off the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13-SHO Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 "Wish I could have gotten a couple more runs in but about an hour and a half before close, some guy decided to flip his new 1200+ horsepower Vega, so I spent the next 75 minutes or so sitting in the staging lanes waiting for the track crew to clean off the track." There is the Milan dragway I remember. Also very little DHT used on test and tune nights. Nice to read you got into the high 12's. These cars seems to be very temperature sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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