Kolk1 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I at least went 2 days without doing anything to it. lol First off, this is just a temp setup, Im content with the mids and highs for now, but just felt it needed a little help in the low end. I dont do this to be loud, I do this for Sound quality. At the same time, I didnt know how much sound would get through the trunk due to how quiet the car is. And I get audio stuff at cost, so I figured Id go with 2. All said and done (even tried with one unhooked) a single 10 would of been enough for what I was looking for, but for now I have 2, and the amp gain on like 20%. lol I will say, I did 0 research about what other people have done before I started the install. I do it for a living so I normally find my own path. That being said. Couple things ive found out, and going to change up later: When finding a signal for my new amp I found that the factory sub signal, doesnt go high enough for my liking, and then the rear doors, have almost no bass and dont go low enough. So it seems the front doors are the closest to a full signal 20-100 that im looking for. So im using that signal for the time being. What im going to do to fix or change this, when I have time, is find either a better full signal before the rears are separated at the amp, or use a different Line output converter, and actually tap off the factory subs, AND the doors at the same time, and use both signals as the input for my amp. Either one would basically be a temporary fix until I get a Audison Bit one signal processor, but that wont happen until I do my main build. So for now, I just have 2 10inch Alpine Type Es, running off a Kicker IX amp, doing 300rms x 2 at 4 ohms. Box has legs on it, so its not touching the black little box marked trunk antenna. And this pic was before I made brackets so the box wont move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Looks good. I can't wait to start working on my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblues38 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 you are at manchester and 141 correct? Audio express? I am right down the road. i may come down on lunch and wrap with you. I have some ideas, going back to my days in the late 80's early 90's when i competed and judged IASCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 God no, I have a little bit of morals. Im at best buy. lol, but normally only work weekends. I will say, Audio Express was the first shop to ever hire me, when I had 0 professional experience. And they still got mad at me that a basic radio install took longer than 10 minutes.... That was over 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G03svt Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Do you do side work for installs? I'd love to add a 10" sub and amp to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yes I do, as long as you come to my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelBlue402A Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I might have to come down some weekend and hang out for a day and have you do some stuff. I have the sub and amp and install kit+ Line out converter( was for my stang ) My best friend worked at BB for years he was the head installer and he did all the complicated stuff for me. Sadly he got killed last summer on his bike. Haven't found anyone i trust to do it around here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 That sucks about your buddy. Sadly I normally work all weekend, and usually off Monday-Friday, winter is a little more busy due to remote start season. But im always looking for people to hang out with during the week. That being said, I normally dont have an issue doing anything for people, the one place I draw the line, is remote starts at home. With newer vehicles, theres more modules that need to be programmed, and too many small issues can pop up, and I dont have the proper software or tech support at home if anything happens. Also, Viper products that I deal with only have a warranty if installed by a authorized dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblues38 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Also' date=' Viper products that I deal with only have a warranty if installed by a authorized dealer.[/quote'] We were a DEI (viper) dealer in the late 80's when remote technology was just comming onto market. When the first remote start kits came on scene, they were huge black boxes. And you had to wire mutliple bosch SPDT relays everywhere. you have it easy, everything is onboard now. It was real fun when people wanted remote start on GM cars with the VATS system. I loved bursting people buble when i showed them how that system is defeated with a simple resister. i think there were only like 16 different values possible. there are times when i miss it. But being on my back upside down in the drivers foot well of a C3 or C4 corvette would not be fun at age 41. i got out beofe the C5's and C6's came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I work over in Manchester, so our main issue is, all of our customers seem to have brand new European cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad1140 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Kolk1, do you feel that there are any "drop in" speaker components that would be any kind of beneficial upgrade to the existing Sony speakers so I could keep all the trunk space and not have to upgrade amps or have to run a line output converter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watts Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 What did you use for a line converter? Does the door signal gave any roll off on the bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Drop in speakers will sound clearer, but probably not any more bass, or louder, due to they need more power. Pick up a 2 channel, buy a good set of components, and just amp the front doors, with them properly blended to the rest of the car, thats what im doing right now. Im using this right now: I plan to move on to a better one when I do my "real" system this summer. Probably go with Audison Bit10 processor, and either Audison amps or Zapco amps. Since I made this thread, ive dynomatted the doors. Did Hertz HSK 165XL comps up front, and they are running off a RE Audio 4 channel amp, thats bridged to a 2 channel. In this pic you can see the RE amp mounted in place, and up above the wheel well, you can see the 2 crossovers mounted in place. Like I said, temp setup for about 3-4 months. Test fitting the adapter plates I had to make for the oversized 6.5s to fit into the 6x8 openings. This is also obviously before I did the dynomat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaktip Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Looks like your having fun. Can't wait to see the final system. I vote for Zapco!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I didn't read the entire thread, but did you run power from the battery all the way back for the Amp? Or were you able to tap into a power line somewhere in the trunk? I am going to be throwing in my extra 12w3v3's here pretty soon. I might have to tap into the front signal as well to make sure the subs have a better range, like you stated. Also any tricks to taking apart the front doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yes, new power needs ran from the battery. Depending on the size of the amp will determine gauge of wire and under hood fuse size. I normally just run 4 gauge wire in all my cars unless I'm planning a huge build. Doors weren't bad, the black 1 inch plastic piece that runs front to back and wraps around, Where you grab to shut the door, the long piece of that needs to pop off first to expose some screws, then where it drops down for the handle comes off to. Panel with the window buttons pops out, and the small black panel behind the lever to open the door pops out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yes, new power needs ran from the battery. Depending on the size of the amp will determine gauge of wire and under hood fuse size. I normally just run 4 gauge wire in all my cars unless I'm planning a huge build. Doors weren't bad, the black 1 inch plastic piece that runs front to back and wraps around, Where you grab to shut the door, the long piece of that needs to pop off first to expose some screws, then where it drops down for the handle comes off to. Panel with the window buttons pops out, and the small black panel behind the lever to open the door pops out too. Thanks for the response and details about the door. I am going to be running 1/0 because in about another 3-4 months I will be installing 2 Sundown 100.4D and 1 Audioque 1200. Was just curious if there was anything to tap into in the trunk so I didn't need to run the big wire yet. Looks like I will though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 How did you run your 4ga from the battery to the back? Did you find a decent access point to cut through on the firewall? I was just looking yesterday and it seems pretty packed. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I had to drill a new hole, and install a grommet. Id probably have to take a picture of where I went through the firewall. Not sure I could explain it. I love me some Sundowns. I was running their subs about 2 years ago. 2 SA-12s in a Nissan Versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I had to drill a new hole, and install a grommet. Id probably have to take a picture of where I went through the firewall. Not sure I could explain it. I love me some Sundowns. I was running their subs about 2 years ago. 2 SA-12s in a Nissan Versa. If you would spend the time to do that, it would be greatly appreciated. Also did you run it down the floor underneath the door sil or down the center? I am going to be installing 8" and 4" in the doors. The tweets will go in the panels. Going to fiberglass them in and then wrap it all in Carbon Fiber. Then I am going to take all of the trim we have that is the black/white and turn that into Carbon Fiber as well. It's going to look pretty bad ass once I am all done. I've always enjoyed Sundown. Great company/product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Any luck on snagging a quick shot. I am going to start working on the car this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I tried last night, but it was too dark, and I was relying on the flash, and none of the pics worked. Ill go out right now, and try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Cant see the actual firewall due to the insulation, but I installed a rubber grommet back there first. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo42987 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Awesome. So you pulled through right next to the steering wheel. That's where I was looking as well. Just wasn't sure if there was enough room to pull it off. Though I will be running 1/0. Really appreciate the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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