bpd1151 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Mine is YELLOW... Anyone know why???? (Here we go again!) Yes... it really shows up yellow..... Late Oct 09' Flex build date. Pictures or it's a myth Dionne :boink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 NO, please....NOT the mythical Dionne!!!:fear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Ok, I have shifted into M and never had that icon. Car was built 9/09, so again, Thanks guys for bursting my bubble. LOL Just resurrecting this thread and updating. Update from my June, 2012 post above: 9/09 early build 2010 MKS (obviously no PP package, as none exists for the MKS) : I realized today, after installing my LMS tune about 6 weeks ago, that now i miraculously have the feature and the icon! I accidentally put it in M today in the driveway....did not get a chance to drive with it yet. 100% guaranteed, it was NOT there before I installed LMS tune (4+). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Thanks for posting TSS. Welcome to what looks like a select club! If you are like me, you will get more aggressive shifts and downshifts. You will not have 6th gear and you will not have freewheeling. All in all a very interesting bonus feature. Just feels unsettling to have LMS be in the dark about it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Thanks. I got a chance to drive it, and I really like the way it felt. It was a noticeable difference. So, if I don't have 6th gear, logic tells me I should never have it in that mode on the highway, correct? Only 4 around the town use? or maybe in the mountains? It is interesting that LMS does not know that much about this. They know more about our programming than anybody else. I have never heard of this feature, ever, before on a MKS...... so the plot thickens...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine109 Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I've got a 2010 non-PP build 2 and I do have the grade assist icon. This thread is very intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Glad you think so. I have been fascinated by this from the get go. Some have suspected me of hallucinating and it feels good to have corroboration. I don't think we will be able to figure this out on our own. Rick has mentioned asking the tuner if he has an answer but I haven't seen anything as yet. The more mystery icon sightings, the merrier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 So...... am I correct that I should not use on the highway? And, count me me in the club that wants to get to the bottom of this mystery. I honestly do think it is very interesting. Particularly, in my case, because as far as I know, it was never available on any MKS, ever, yet it miraculously appeared after the tune. So tell me if my summary is correct. more aggressive down shifts more aggressive up shifts no free wheeling no 6th gear no rolling backwards when you're on a hill in you take your foot off the brake Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoman04 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 So...... am I correct that I should not use on the highway? And, count me me in the club that wants to get to the bottom of this mystery. I honestly do think it is very interesting. Particularly, in my case, because as far as I know, it was never available on any MKS, ever, yet it miraculously appeared after the tune. So tell me if my summary is correct. more aggressive down shifts more aggressive up shifts no free wheeling no 6th gear no rolling backwards when you're on a hill in you take your foot off the brake Did I miss anything? Sounds right. If you ever take your car to a SCCA Autocross event use the grade-assist it will be like you are in a manaul race mod. 3sec faster a lap. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think the shift points both up and down are more aggressive. It will not shift up beyond 5th. No freewheeling so you get engine braking when you take your foot off the gas. Don't know anything about rolling back on a hill. Not much needed on an automatic though. Neat thing is it is a sure fire instant cure for the confused shifting attack. Pull the lever into M at the first sign of a clunk and presto clunking is cured and does not come back when you put it back into D. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 As far as highway the main difference is an increase of about 300 rpm. So at 70 mph rpm might go from 1700 to 2000. So I'm a mileage watcher and I wouldn't take a trip in grade assist but for a spirited jaunt I don't think it is a problem at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Fortunately I don't have the clunk/confused shifting. I love the sportier feel of it though! What a new bonus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine109 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Could the missing variable that explains why some of us have grade assist and why some do t be the strategy code? It's one of the few things that can be different from one SHO to the next within the same "job/build." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think grade assist is a common option with the Ford line. I rented a '12 Explorer on a recent trip....a 3.5 power plant and it had a rotary knob on the console that selected the mode. One of the modes was grade assist. I wonder if Ford might be using the same tranny for many vehicles and using software tweaks to turn capabilities on or off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractorAK Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sounds like sport mode in the 2013 PP. I don't get an icon but it acts exactly as been described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 What is the primary claimed purpose of grade assistance? For towing? For driving in the mountains? Nothing in my owners manual, because the MKS allegedly doesnt have it. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Yes tss to all 3 of your questions, the wife's escape has and i use a lot up north on hilly dirt roads so not to gain speed when going down hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Thanks! Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Thanks for reminding me that I do NOT have this icon....and I have the Livernois 4+ tune installed...but I'm not jealous or upset!!!!!! Well, maybe just a little!:mad2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Thanks for reminding me that I do NOT have this icon....and I have the Livernois 4+ tune installed...but I'm not jealous or upset!!!!!! Well' date=' maybe just a little!:mad2:[/quote'] Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sorry about that. It's OK, I'm really over it!:RpS_crying: But I sure can't figure out why I can't get the icon, since my build date was 11/09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylu Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 It's OK' date=' I'm really over it!:RpS_crying: But I sure can't figure out why I can't get the icon, since my build date was 11/09.[/quote'] Here is an interesting experiment for you to try. See if Rick will email you the latest 4+ file and try that. There may be an unknown or accidental variable that has been modified since your file was sent to you. It either makes a difference or it doesn't. Either way we learn a little more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 ^^ Good idea - my 4+ was downloaded when I visited Rick @ LMS in September, 2012 - so very recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Good idea, I will have to contact Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I do not know how I missed this thread all these months but I will add this, I am at work and cannot prove it right this second but, I am most certain I can only achieve this green car going down a hill icon by shifting into "M" mode while the car is already rolling and not by going into "M" mode from a stop. I know I have seen it before and will try it when I get off tonight but I am 99% certain it works as described for my car. 2011 PP car with the trunk pulldown, stage 4+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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