Dmorr1 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I read reviews on Performance Package that mention steering alterations that let driver feels more of the road. Is this a good thing if your aren't going to track? I guess question is Does Perf Package make for more enjoyable experience? And never mind the summer tires as I will swap for A/S right off the bat. Extra braking is 6' improvement and less fade. Avg driver gonna notice? Or do I need to be ripping up a track to get any value here? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 1. no spare with PP (that matters to me personally) 2. I have seen a video where an SHO with PP needs to shift into 3rd just before 60 AMPH at full throttle. My MKS (essentially SHO with out PP) takes it past 60 in second. IF this video is not a fluke, the 0-60 time of a non PP should be ever so slightly faster than a PP. After that, the PP would be at an advantage. If you are a 0-60 nut like me (don't care about 1/4 mile or top speed), the non PP may be more to your liking. 3. I have found that geneerally the PP feels a little tighter and braking does feel better, but that is all subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83racecrew Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I have a 2013 w/PP. .#2 from TSS above is correct. The higher final drive ratio (3.16 vs 2.77 for non PP) means that it shifts into 3rd at about 55-57 MPH. If we could just have a tune or rev limiter set 100 or so RPM higher, it wouldn't shift into 3rd until after 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO Rod Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 The ride stiffness of the PP is a bit firm for everyday driving in my opinion. I like the steering feel, but wouldn't mind having a slightly softer ride. Yeah, the final drive ratio is different, but that extra shift doesn't necessarily mean a slower time to 60 mph. The shorter ratio means it picks up speed faster. Does the rate at which it picks up speed offset the time to shift? I'm not sure. -Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmorr1 Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thanks Rod I'm leaning to a short lease and no PP. spare tire critical and don't need super tight ride for everyday driver. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 The biggest negative to me with the PP is that you can't get Adaptive Cruise Control, and now that I've used it for a few years, man, I don't think I'd give it up for the PP. Also with the lower final drive ratio you can expect to get a little lower fuel mileage with a PP car then a non-PP car. Although, I think the non-PP cars will keep up or pass 90% of the cars on the road today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjhpadi Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Oh, lastly, I think the non-PP car handles fine, again it handles as well as most other cars in it's class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I used to not think a spare tire was critical me. But last month, on a short trip from OH back to MI, I got an unrepairable flat in the middle of nowhere on a Sunday (with our Enclave that does have a spare fortunately). I decided then and there that a spare tire was critical to me. I think you may be able to add a spare, but factor in that and replacing with A/S tires if you are going to do that, and costs really add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmorr1 Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 The ride stiffness of the PP is a bit firm for everyday driving in my opinion. I like the steering feel, but wouldn't mind having a slightly softer ride. Yeah, the final drive ratio is different, but that extra shift doesn't necessarily mean a slower time to 60 mph. The shorter ratio means it picks up speed faster. Does the rate at which it picks up speed offset the time to shift? I'm not sure. -Rod Do you attribute ride stiffness (ur view) to summer tires? Or the suspension tuning? Have you tried PP with regular A/S tires? Just curious your opinion. Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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