RedCandySHO Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Any reasoning behind using the Alky kit vs say a Snow Performance kit? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpd1151 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I rolled with the recommendations of Livernois Motorsports. Enough of a reason for me. Never looked elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash712us Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I agree, no reason to look any where else. LMS supports alycontrols and Julio Don of alkycontrols customer service is just as awesome as LMS's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCandySHO Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Cool. Thanks guys. Was just curious. I have a Snow kit from my Cobra sitting in a box. Thought about maybe installing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoBrick Bob Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 The Snow Kit is likely fine. Rick told me that some years ago they had issues with Snow kits so they went to Alky Control. Probably the reason they prefer Alky is that the pump is installed upside down and is lower than the spray nozzle, but more importantly is required to be installed with the pump below the holding tank. This means that you won't have an issue due to the pump not being primed. So the only risk is a pump failure itself, which is very unlikely, given the infrequent use in normal driving (exception...bpd... lol). The Alky system uses a progressive controller, which you may or may not have with your Snow kit. I have a Snow pump, that I added to the system Torrie supplied, as it had a higher pressure. My system does not have a progressive controller. It is either on or off... turning on when boost reaches 7-8 psi (adjustable). There are many theories on water/methanol spraying, Some only recommend a mixture of less than 50% Methanol due to the fire hazard of higher concenrations. Others say on/off systems are easier to tune... ie. the simpler the better. In my instance, where Torrie has tuned my Flex via logging and e-mailing new tunes, that is probably best for me. However, if Torrie or Dan were to be tuning my vehicle while on a dyno... then a more sophisticated system may provide more power. On-off systems like mine tend to run rich at lower rpm, like below 4000-4500. My last series of W/M tunes were with a 75% Methanol concentration, and a #10 nozzle. Also, your engine needs to be tuned for the W/M spray or the spray will actually hurt performance because it will make your engine run rich. This won't hurt anything. Only frustrating to run slower... I also mounted my pump right side up, with piping entering and leaving the top. As I see it, if you prime your pump manually when going to strip, or planning WOT runs, you will never have an issue. Even if you don't, you are unlikely to have one, unless the system hasn't been used for a while. Since my pump was new, the seals were fine. A used pump, that has been sitting around, or has been used for several years without replacement or rebuilding, could have an issue... If you're still in FL, I would imagine Torrie could easily tune, with a few logging episodes. If you look at my install pix, you can easily mount your system like mine, which allows for easy removal and re-install. Again... this is all just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shomeda- Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I rolled with the recommendations of Livernois Motorsports. Enough of a reason for me. Never looked elsewhere. Same Here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve142857 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Alky with LMS tune already done and Dyno proven, no brainer and will add about 40-70 hp (depending atage 4+ or 5)... Reliable, good service, already a few EBs running it for a while now... Was a no brainer for me... The only thing is the install takes between 10 and 20 hours... But really all worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrming Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Besides the Livernois recommendation, I also check with one of my other favorite, well respected shops... Before pulling the trigger I called Lidio at Alternative Auto... Alky Control is what they recommend also! So if the two of the best shops recommend Alky Control, and as other have said the LMS tune and Alky Control were already proven!! So I was very comfortable going the Alky Control route! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCandySHO Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys. My Snow kit always worked well, but my Cobra was not exactly a daily driver either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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